Talk:Human space flight

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1 Title/topic
2 Yes, it will be chronological
3 Title capitalizations
4 saving pic location for future use

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Title/topic

As it seems now, this article is not intended to be an article about human space flight as such, or generally, but is intended to be a chronological overview? If so, then I propose that the article should get a specification in its title, so the title says something like "Human space flight (chronological history)", or "Chronological history of human space flight", or something like that.

I definitely also think it would be good if someone wrote a general article about the topic of human space flight, and had a brief section in there about the history or chronology, and then in the beginning, directly under that section's header, could there be a link to this article here as it seems it's intended to be, something like this:

Main article: Chronological history of human space flight

These are some thoughts I have after looking at the article as it seems right now. --Optimist 01:27, 21 September 2008 (CDT)

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Yes, it will be chronological

But I would like to see a brief summary of each manned flight off planet without creating an article for each.

Though it will be organized by date, I think as the sections get more material filled in the original title will make more sense.

Another work in progress.....

Anxietydisorder 03:14, 21 September 2008 (CDT)

Not 100% sure I understood you correctly, but if the article will be centered around human space flight in general, then I would agree the article should stay at this title, yes. A chronological listing can definitely be in the main article, but if it gets so content rich that it seems to 'titlt' the focus of the article away from what's indicated in the article title, then that content can be moved to a new page with an appropriate title, and the section here in the main article can be just a briefer summary, and can have a link to the main article for the chronological listing topic.

The same is what I'd say about summaries of each manned flight -- if it's brief, as you also say, so that it seems to take only a natural amount of space in the context of the article, then it's also natural to keep the summaries right here. If the summaries start to outgrow the article here, then that content can be afforded its own page, and a shorter summary section here can link to the new main article for that topic. P.S. Just a general 'technicality' comment: I would encourage you to write replies under the post you are replying to, as opposed to creating a new header. (If you'd like to use indenting, that's done by simply writing a colon : at the beginning of the line.) Also, remember to sign your posts. :-) Keep up the good work. --Optimist 03:23, 21 September 2008 (CDT)

I'm doing a little more work on this article and think the intent I have for this is starting to come together. Still lots of work to be done, but it will become a good reference page. I'm hoping to include unusual phenomena and UFO sightings to flights that apply.

Hopefully this fits in with the information tinWiki is looking for.

Anxietydisorder 17:24, 22 September 2008 (CDT)

I don't mind there being a list of space manned space flights, but the current set up seems to mash to much into one article. Each notable flight should get its own article. There can be a list of all flights in a article that exists for that purpose, but that should not be under this article (only referenced by a link). I don't agree with the changes here or with the attempted redirects for the existing articles. — Palzeta^{(How's That?, That's How!)} _{(Inclusionistic Eventualist )}— 11:33, 27 September 2008 (CDT)

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Title capitalizations

I'm far from any expert on style or on style manuals, and, also, English isn't my first language. I do know there's some 'protocol' or rule or such, in English, that titles are capitalized (at least the nouns, ...it seems many times words like "of", "the", "a", and such aren't capitalized, then some times it seems they are?...) Anyway, the issue of capitalization isn't totally clear, it seems. One of the biggest websites in the world, Wikipedia, which also uses mainly American English (not sure if there is any difference between British English and American English when it comes to capitalizatiosn in titles, though) seems to very excplicitly not use capitalizations in titles, other than for the first letter and nouns. This same policy is also stated in tinWiki's style manual; however, a contradictory policy is stated in at least one other help page, other than the style manual. Perhaps the style manual is one of the pages that are created by default when the MediaWiki wiki software which tinWiki uses is installed? It seems some of the help pages are at least not created from scratch for tinWiki.

So my impression is that the whole capitalizaion in titles issue is something that's not as clear as it perhaps would have been good to have it be, yet. However, in this particular article the first sentence in itself may not actually be a matter of title. That sentence talks about flight, specifically flight in space. Now, I'm not sure -- but could have looked it up by a simple web search, of course.. -- if space, as in 'outer space' is always capitalized. I do think 'flight' is not necessarily capitalized. Just, to think out loud and explain what I was imagining now, assuming the word 'space' isn't necessarily always capitalized, the sentence then talks about flight that happens in space, so 'space flight', and, further, this flight isn't by birds or ETs, but by humans, and so it's human space flight. Assuming, like I did, then, that the word 'space' isn't always capitalized, there should be no capitals in that use of words in a normal sentence, other than the first letter, of course. But my thoughts there are about the first sentence. The title is a different issue. I don't think the title capitalization issue needs to be figured out like 'today' or even this week, ...but I think it's probably a good idea to put it on the list of stuff that should be figured out in the long term, although it would probably be good to try and find out what should be a general tinWiki policy on that, inside, say, six months or something like that..

Anyway, how does it sound what I said about capitalization in the first sentence? Optimist 19:14, 27 September 2008 (CDT)

Proper nouns or the first word of a sentence or phrase are capitalized. FBI is Federal Bureau of Investigation, because it is a name (proper noun) Human space flight is not a name. It is instead a concept or category. Some people do capitalize all the words in the title just because it is a title, but there are no rules that make it clear how to do this. More consist is just following normal capitalization within titles. This, of course, is tinWiki.orG and not Wikipedia.org, so I guess we can start our own rules. However, if we abide by normal capitalzation within title, it is much easy to link to them when we use the titles within paragraphs. — Palzeta^{(How's That?, That's How!)} _{(Inclusionistic Eventualist )}— 23:13, 28 September 2008 (CDT)